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		<title>Comment on Gotta tend the earth if you want a rose by Jason Fowler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks for mentioning our blogazine!
Great response too.

-shalom!
JF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks for mentioning our blogazine!<br />
Great response too.</p>
<p>-shalom!<br />
JF</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekly Readings for 2/1 - 2/7 by Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that just dropping our nets to follow Jesus seems awfully hard.  We have families, jobs, responsibilities.  But our fear of the all-or-nothing may be unfounded. In fact, it may be a mechanism to reduce our own responsibility..."I can't do it all, so why do anything."

I note two things about Jesus' approach to Peter and company.  First, their calling here is evolutionary, not revolutionary.  They are to use their aptitude and experience fishing to "catch" people.  And while they "drop their nets" their needs are met and they are not too far from family -- at one point in their travels Jesus heals Peter's mother-in-law, so they are nearby or their families travel with them.

Second, they are not called to give up but to expand their lives into something much bigger.  Yes, Peter stops "fishing," but he is called into a once-in-a-lifetime experience, a witness to history, and given the gift of seeing what God is up to first-hand.  The Peter who sat in the boat couldn't have imagined public speaking; and by Acts he's preaching to and converting thousands.

This, I think, is what Jesus offers us:  He wants to use our talents and gifts (God-given as they are) for a bigger purpose, and he wants to release the potential in us.  That is scary because we are accustomed to the safety of the ways we have already defined to use our gifts and potential.  But we can trust that God can accomplish more in us, if we stop holding on to what is safe and known and just follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that just dropping our nets to follow Jesus seems awfully hard.  We have families, jobs, responsibilities.  But our fear of the all-or-nothing may be unfounded. In fact, it may be a mechanism to reduce our own responsibility&#8230;&#8221;I can&#8217;t do it all, so why do anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>I note two things about Jesus&#8217; approach to Peter and company.  First, their calling here is evolutionary, not revolutionary.  They are to use their aptitude and experience fishing to &#8220;catch&#8221; people.  And while they &#8220;drop their nets&#8221; their needs are met and they are not too far from family &#8212; at one point in their travels Jesus heals Peter&#8217;s mother-in-law, so they are nearby or their families travel with them.</p>
<p>Second, they are not called to give up but to expand their lives into something much bigger.  Yes, Peter stops &#8220;fishing,&#8221; but he is called into a once-in-a-lifetime experience, a witness to history, and given the gift of seeing what God is up to first-hand.  The Peter who sat in the boat couldn&#8217;t have imagined public speaking; and by Acts he&#8217;s preaching to and converting thousands.</p>
<p>This, I think, is what Jesus offers us:  He wants to use our talents and gifts (God-given as they are) for a bigger purpose, and he wants to release the potential in us.  That is scary because we are accustomed to the safety of the ways we have already defined to use our gifts and potential.  But we can trust that God can accomplish more in us, if we stop holding on to what is safe and known and just follow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekly Readings for 2/1 - 2/7 by Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the reading for Thursday. He sends the them out in pairs and they go and teach and heal and if they are not welcome they are to just move on. I know that I am discouraged if I am not successful. It can even make me reconsider my point of view. So much better to just move on to the next thing and not dwell on the failure. I have to trust that the Holy Spirit will do what it is that needs to be done. That is not my part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the reading for Thursday. He sends the them out in pairs and they go and teach and heal and if they are not welcome they are to just move on. I know that I am discouraged if I am not successful. It can even make me reconsider my point of view. So much better to just move on to the next thing and not dwell on the failure. I have to trust that the Holy Spirit will do what it is that needs to be done. That is not my part.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekly Readings for 12/28 - 1/3 by suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These readings are like a rich tapestry to me. a cloth filled with stories, (not necessarily in any order) about the coming of God in human form to free us from the mess sin makes. 

My favorite passages is in the John 1 reading. Where we are told Christ has freed us to be our child-of-God selves. 

To me this is such an exciting statement. Being who we are meant to be without doubt and anxiety.  Fulfilling the potential God has giving us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These readings are like a rich tapestry to me. a cloth filled with stories, (not necessarily in any order) about the coming of God in human form to free us from the mess sin makes. </p>
<p>My favorite passages is in the John 1 reading. Where we are told Christ has freed us to be our child-of-God selves. </p>
<p>To me this is such an exciting statement. Being who we are meant to be without doubt and anxiety.  Fulfilling the potential God has giving us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekly Readings for 12/14-12/20 by Bob Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.liveservegrow.info/?p=1365&#038;cpage=1#comment-5421</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we close the season of Advent, a time of waiting, the first few readings for this week ask, "What are you waiting for?"

Monday we saw the religious leaders demanding Jesus' credentials. When they are asked what they think about John's works, they reveal their true intention: &lt;strong&gt;They are looking for one with human authority and power. &lt;/strong&gt; They do not pray to seek God's guidance, nor do they discern what might be happening. Instead they play politics; it's more important for them not to be seen as wrong, and not to risk the anger of the crowd, than to say what they think. 

Today's story continues the encounter. In the parable one son shames the father by refusing him, the other shames him by not actually honoring his wishes. In the culture the father would have been angry at both, but more angry at the one who didn't outright defy him publicly (but didn't do the work)? Or at the one who made him look bad but then changed his priorities and served?  Jesus allows that those who don't look so good but believe John (and Jesus) have an advantage over those who say the right things but then act differently. &lt;strong&gt;Yet they are waiting one who will confirm the status quo.&lt;/strong&gt;

Wednesday's reading picks up on how Jesus defies expectations, even John's!  &lt;strong&gt;Apparently John must have been looking for something more than Jesus' preaching and miracles&lt;/strong&gt;.  Jesus points out that his authority comes from fulfilling God's promises (made through the prophets) -- to heal, to bring good news to the poor.

There is a lot about Jesus' life and ministry that gave others offence -- even (especially) good, religious folks.

Does Jesus' style and message offend you?

If our lives of faith and service do not offend anyone, can we be doing all that we are asked?

Which Jesus are you waiting for?  The babe sleeping in the manger?  The healer and teacher?  The revolutionary, overturning religious power like the moneychanger's tables?  The reconciler who invites you into a renewed relationship with God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we close the season of Advent, a time of waiting, the first few readings for this week ask, &#8220;What are you waiting for?&#8221;</p>
<p>Monday we saw the religious leaders demanding Jesus&#8217; credentials. When they are asked what they think about John&#8217;s works, they reveal their true intention: <strong>They are looking for one with human authority and power. </strong> They do not pray to seek God&#8217;s guidance, nor do they discern what might be happening. Instead they play politics; it&#8217;s more important for them not to be seen as wrong, and not to risk the anger of the crowd, than to say what they think. </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s story continues the encounter. In the parable one son shames the father by refusing him, the other shames him by not actually honoring his wishes. In the culture the father would have been angry at both, but more angry at the one who didn&#8217;t outright defy him publicly (but didn&#8217;t do the work)? Or at the one who made him look bad but then changed his priorities and served?  Jesus allows that those who don&#8217;t look so good but believe John (and Jesus) have an advantage over those who say the right things but then act differently. <strong>Yet they are waiting one who will confirm the status quo.</strong></p>
<p>Wednesday&#8217;s reading picks up on how Jesus defies expectations, even John&#8217;s!  <strong>Apparently John must have been looking for something more than Jesus&#8217; preaching and miracles</strong>.  Jesus points out that his authority comes from fulfilling God&#8217;s promises (made through the prophets) &#8212; to heal, to bring good news to the poor.</p>
<p>There is a lot about Jesus&#8217; life and ministry that gave others offence &#8212; even (especially) good, religious folks.</p>
<p>Does Jesus&#8217; style and message offend you?</p>
<p>If our lives of faith and service do not offend anyone, can we be doing all that we are asked?</p>
<p>Which Jesus are you waiting for?  The babe sleeping in the manger?  The healer and teacher?  The revolutionary, overturning religious power like the moneychanger&#8217;s tables?  The reconciler who invites you into a renewed relationship with God?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Reading for Friday (12/11) by suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a persevered security and safety in doing things the way we are most comfortable. For some that is just part of there nature. I think for others, like John the Baptist, doing things outside the box is the only way they can be. One has trouble understanding the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a persevered security and safety in doing things the way we are most comfortable. For some that is just part of there nature. I think for others, like John the Baptist, doing things outside the box is the only way they can be. One has trouble understanding the other.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Reading for Saturday (12/12) by Bob Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew is writing as a Jew. His agenda, as it were, is to show his people how Christ is the fulfillment of the prophets and their expectations of a Messiah. Thus he spends a lot of time pointing this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew is writing as a Jew. His agenda, as it were, is to show his people how Christ is the fulfillment of the prophets and their expectations of a Messiah. Thus he spends a lot of time pointing this out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Reading for Friday (12/11) by Bob Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recognizing it is the first step to doing something about it. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recognizing it is the first step to doing something about it. <img src='http://www.liveservegrow.info/atlarge/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Reading for Friday (12/11) by Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your "pick and choose our obedience" line is too accurate and a hard pill to swallow! We rationalize ourselves out of obedience when convenient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your &#8220;pick and choose our obedience&#8221; line is too accurate and a hard pill to swallow! We rationalize ourselves out of obedience when convenient.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Reading for Friday (12/11) by Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's face it -- we like to pick and choose our obedience.

Sometimes we hear the call to live simply, or Jesus call to drop our nets and follow, or John's call to "Repent!", and we say -- that's too hard!

Other times we Jesus' counsel to receive God's love and care, like the birds and flowers, and we say -- that's too hard!

What is easy to miss here is that, by focusing on what we "can't" do, we are like the children in Christ's parable.  By whining at each other that no one wants to play "our" game, we end up not playing at all!

These people of Jesus' time clung to the status quo because John's call was too much, his behavior out of the box.  At the same time they used Jesus' breaking of the norms -- eating with the unacceptable, for example -- to brand him as out of the box.  They neutralized both Jesus' and John's challenge in order to stay safely where they were already comfortable.

I can play this game, too. But heeding God's wisdom might by figuring out what God's call means in my life, and then going out to "play," just as I am, with what I have, rather than figuring out why I can't be one of the spiritual greats.

Are there ways that you dismiss the challenge in Jesus' words and miss the dance that he invites you into?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8212; we like to pick and choose our obedience.</p>
<p>Sometimes we hear the call to live simply, or Jesus call to drop our nets and follow, or John&#8217;s call to &#8220;Repent!&#8221;, and we say &#8212; that&#8217;s too hard!</p>
<p>Other times we Jesus&#8217; counsel to receive God&#8217;s love and care, like the birds and flowers, and we say &#8212; that&#8217;s too hard!</p>
<p>What is easy to miss here is that, by focusing on what we &#8220;can&#8217;t&#8221; do, we are like the children in Christ&#8217;s parable.  By whining at each other that no one wants to play &#8220;our&#8221; game, we end up not playing at all!</p>
<p>These people of Jesus&#8217; time clung to the status quo because John&#8217;s call was too much, his behavior out of the box.  At the same time they used Jesus&#8217; breaking of the norms &#8212; eating with the unacceptable, for example &#8212; to brand him as out of the box.  They neutralized both Jesus&#8217; and John&#8217;s challenge in order to stay safely where they were already comfortable.</p>
<p>I can play this game, too. But heeding God&#8217;s wisdom might by figuring out what God&#8217;s call means in my life, and then going out to &#8220;play,&#8221; just as I am, with what I have, rather than figuring out why I can&#8217;t be one of the spiritual greats.</p>
<p>Are there ways that you dismiss the challenge in Jesus&#8217; words and miss the dance that he invites you into?</p>
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